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- arena - 06-14-2012
csmith74 wrote:
Quote:I can get onboard with adapting standard PCA or SCCA handicap systems as well. I think trying to create an overly complex system with multiple factors does little more than confuse everyone. You're the boss big J, but you could save yourself a lot of time and headaches. Not to mention you wouldn't have to keep defending yourself on the forumUsing the SCCA handicap system was my original thought as well... but that one is pretty complicated and confusing as it is... I'll get to work on figuring it out.
- Vytenis - 06-14-2012
The SCCA PAX system does not have enough precision. Except for old 356 models and newer (993 & up) & turbos, every stock 911 is one class (same PPF).
http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/assets/2012%20SCCA%20Solo%20Stock%20Category%20Classifications%20By%20Manufacturer%20-%20May.pdf
Also does not account for tires. You can bring bubble gum tires and have the same PAX (PPF).
"V"
- betegh9 - 06-14-2012
V is right. Porsches are bunched up in one class or two. You have to look at large PCA regions and see what they have done. NNJR has kept AX results from many years, so they have worked out their own PAX based on many factors. I believe that we have an event planned to join them this season at the New Jersey Giant's stadium. I would like to see a,comparison of our results with our PPF as well as NNJR's system and see if the RTR group ranking fall in the same order.
- arena - 06-19-2012
betegh9 wrote:
Quote:V is right. Porsches are bunched up in one class or two. You have to look at large PCA regions and see what they have done. NNJR has kept AX results from many years, so they have worked out their own PAX based on many factors. I believe that we have an event planned to join them this season at the New Jersey Giant's stadium. I would like to see a,comparison of our results with our PPF as well as NNJR's system and see if the RTR group ranking fall in the same order.This is their PAX system:
http://www.nnjr-pca.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=101&Itemid=105
It is pretty simple, and leaves a lot of room for improvement of one's car without changing classes.
- betegh9 - 06-20-2012
Wow! finally someone actually looked up the NNJR PAX. I did not want to look like the drug pusher, but this is what I have been preaching for in the last 2 years. Their PAX works........ unless one is a terrible driver that needs SEAT TIME to get better.
In my first AX a few years ago, I DNF'd all my runs. So, if I could do it, anyone can.
- arena - 06-21-2012
betegh9 wrote:
Quote:Wow! finally someone actually looked up the NNJR PAX. I did not want to look like the drug pusher, but this is what I have been preaching for in the last 2 years. Their PAX works........ unless one is a terrible driver that needs SEAT TIME to get better.I actually like the idea of a very simple pax system. In the off-season this winter, we should all get together and discuss all of these ideas.
In my first AX a few years ago, I DNF'd all my runs. So, if I could do it, anyone can.
- Vytenis - 06-21-2012
Nick,
what is your PAX in the NNJR system?
"V"
- betegh9 - 06-21-2012
Vytenis wrote:
Quote:Nick,
what is your PAX in the NNJR system?
"V"
.985 I fall into the modified but street legal class MO2. What is yours? Arena's?.......everyone else?
Figure out Hershey's event with NNJR rules and see where we all fall in comparison.
- Vytenis - 06-21-2012
OK, help me out. Looks like my 1987 911 3.2 with modifications falls into the P3 class. Above Showroom stock, but below Improved. I don't see any P PAX. What's my PAX?
"V"
- betegh9 - 06-22-2012
Vytenis wrote:
Quote:OK, help me out. Looks like my 1987 911 3.2 with modifications falls into the P3 class. Above Showroom stock, but below Improved. I don't see any P PAX. What's my PAX?V, I believe that you would fall in the S4 category, not SS, whose PAX IS .922. to be competitive, you would want to do the maximum what is allowed in he class and use the best tire possible allowed.
"V"