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- jakp993 - 03-09-2007
bobt993 wrote:
Quote:It's a 96Did you have issues with the installation? Mine wasn't that bad. I don't remember any horrors and I think I did the same thing as you. What caused you grief?
Jack, ironically I was interested in the 96 due to the 18inch/suspension upgrade and Varioram (which when working is great). I am one day away from completing the moton,bump steer,front monoball installation. I need to remind myself of the horror next time I want to do this.hock: but it's near completion.
Glad it's nearly done.
I need to get you your DVR back before VIR. I can drop it off this weekend.
Jack
- APXD 30 - 03-09-2007
Could this be caused by the engine being located behind the rear wheels?
Sorry....this was far too tempting for a Boxster owner. Bring it on!
- smankow - 03-09-2007
let's get something straight, Josh. Your a boxster owner who tracks a gti. You're even worse - your engine is in front of the front wheels
Plus, you forget to enroll your "better" half for online reg.Steve
- bobt993 - 03-11-2007
Josh, you could blame the engine being in the rear if most the work was there, but installing new evo uprights (front carriers), front wheel bearings, front steering links, front ERP monoballs.......... so I guess the thing I had to do in the rear was the moton shocks.
, missed two things, ABS wheel sensors, and front brake pads................
- Phokaioglaukos - 03-25-2007
Larry, what did you conclude?
- larrybard - 03-25-2007
Chris,
The anecdotal evidence seems mixed, so I'm still on the fence, and there's a better than even chance I'll leave the rear camber links stock going into the season and see how the car feels on the track. I hope that doesn't sound like "First I'll see if the car exhibits dangerous instability and I spin out of control before opting for the change. But at least I will have the comfort of knowing that if something untoward does happen there is a much better chance that I'll avoid injury (with the upgraded seats, roll bar, six point harnesses and HANS device for the new season). As for the suspension, I expect only two material changes -- installation of H&R lowering springs (that I almost inadvertently bought at the Make A Wish auction last year) and a new set of shocks (but not Bilstein PSS9s).
Larry
- shoosh - 03-26-2007
Larry,
As my car was referenced in this thread, I thought that I would add a bit of information to the discussion. From my experience, the early 993's did/do have rear geometry issues, that could lead to "diabolical" handling, once they have been lowered/stiffened past a certain point. As my car was raced in the Cup series prior to it landing in the USA, the spring rates were very high (1100 & 1350 come to mind, but I would have to check), and the car was very low (the spring/shock rates and ride height were comparable to other 993 Cup cars). Given this set up, the variable length arms in the rear made a world of difference (I know of at least one other friend, with a similar car, that would agree)!!
Unless you are moving toward this type of a set up, I believe that the stock arms should work very well. As mentioned earlier, I would also recommend Joel as an expert in this area.
One final note, if you are changing springs, make certain that you use an appropriately valved shock (I have had the mismatch issue on 3 cars, and have seen several threads on this topic). If the spring/shock package isn't a good fit, your handling can deteriorate significantly.
See you on the track....
Scott
- larrybard - 03-26-2007
Scott,
I really appreciate the helpful, specific insight and "watch outs" concerning the issue.
Yes, see you on the track -- obviously from somewhat afar, rather than in the same run group.
Larry