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- Brian Minkin - 06-22-2008
Friday was a good day in between rain showers. It had been raining most of the week and the track had very little grip. Best I could squeeze was 2:22:0 which is good but not fast for the Glen. Did manage to put in 177 miles on friday. I was a reserve instructor so that meant no student. Sat. I drove in White Black and Red in the morning sessions and with 70+ cars on the track each session the traffic was thick so needed to spend a lot of time waiting for passing oportunity in trains. Then my left CV joint went south and I had to pack it in. We had one RTR BOO-BOO in turn 10 but I will say no more unless he decides to post himself.
- ninjabones - 06-22-2008
okay, okay... it was me... despite all the warnings, I still f#$*'d up.
A bit of fatigue on the final run session, a bit tall on ambition and a little bit shy on talent in turn 10, and we made a wee bit'o contact with the lovely tire wall. Thank god for track insurance and a Hans device. Fortunately, it looks like the car only suffered sheet metal damage (left front quarter, left rear quarter and bumpers). Hopefully, we'll have her bandaged up for the Redemption run at the Glen in August.
Special thanks to the RTR guys who bailed me out of a tough situation, especially Graham for towing me home while I followed in his SC; Tony for bringing back my wheels, and Mike, Brian, Steve, and Mark for the moral support.
It definitely could have been a whole helluva lot worse. Also have to thank god for my wife (and not making me quit despite the incident).
A trailer, a somewhat more weathered car, and a little less ego will be at the next RTR event in August.
Glen
- George3 - 06-22-2008
Glen,
Sorry to hear about your car and the tire wall. Just be thankful you are safe and didn't get hurt. Remember, cars and sheet metal are replaceable.
Wishing you well................. George
- jmr3 - 06-22-2008
Sorry to hear about your incident. I had one a few years back and was very pleased with the work of Brandywine Coach Works in Exton.
- ccm911 - 06-23-2008
Brian Minkin wrote:
Quote:Friday was a good day in between rain showers. It had been raining most of the week and the track had very little grip. Best I could squeeze was 2:22:0 which is good but not fast for the Glen. Did manage to put in 177 miles on friday. I was a reserve instructor so that meant no student. Sat. I drove in White Black and Red in the morning sessions and with 70+ cars on the track each session the traffic was thick so needed to spend a lot of time waiting for passing oportunity in trains. Then my left CV joint went south and I had to pack it in. We had one RTR BOO-BOO in turn 10 but I will say no more unless he decides to post himself.That is the second CV incident I have heard about this year. And both with 993 cars. I'll bet all the 993 drivers will now be torquing and checking their CVs and flanges with a bit more regularity now.
- jakp993 - 06-23-2008
Glen,
Sorry to hear about the incident. The Glen has taught many of us a lesson. I totalled an RX-7 in the Laces early in my driving career. I will NEVER forget the look of terror on Carol's face when I exited the Ambulance after the track's madatory check out ride after a heavy impact.
That "look" made me re-access the entire driving thing. I obviously didn't stop... But, it helped me understand that I do this for fun, and while the thrill of being on the edge is part of that fun, it's not the main factor. It helped me realize that I enjoy the social aspect of driving more than the thrill factor and that I could still have a blast while driving within my margin of error.
It was a hard lesson to learn, and I unfortunately had to learn it the way I learn most of my lessons - the hard way... But, like yourself, I wasn't hurt and cars can be replaced.
So, take this opportunity to learn a lesson or the next one may not be so subtle!
Take care,
Jack
- Tony356993 - 06-23-2008
Quote:in turn 10
Since 2000, almost every w/e I'm @ the glen (3-4 per year) there is usually an incident in T10. These events are Zone 1, NNJR, Potomac, CVR & RTR. I always talk with my students about T10 and there is to me an obvious reason why the Glen does not allow any passing in any run group between T10 & T11. When you look at a track on your first warm up laps, look at where the tire barriers are located and look at where there are skid marks on the track. You can learn from others mistakes and learn from the track itself.
Glen - sorry to be witness to the sounds and visual of your mishap but it's only stuff and stuff can be replaced. It was a pretty hard hit and a testament to the structural engineering of the 911.
The entire exercise we do - driving at speed - is a challenge between me and myself, not machine and track. The brain does not naturally want to drive at those speeds and most certainly does not want to unwind the wheel to turn more or increase throttle when the sh*t hits the fan. To me, this is the real challenge of high speed driving.
I'm real glad you were not in the cab. Good luck with the repairs.
Tony
- Brian Minkin - 06-23-2008
ccm911 wrote:
Quote:That is the second CV incident I have heard about this year. And both with 993 cars. I'll bet all the 993 drivers will now be torquing and checking their CVs and flanges with a bit more regularity now.Turned out not to be the CV joint. I trashed the left rear bearing and the hub as well.
- bobt993 - 06-23-2008
Brian, I am surprised you did not feel the vibration from a bearing going bad. Did it go without warning? I have started bringing a spare bearing to the track since changing it is easy if.................. you can get the hub off without the bearing coming apart.
- Brian Minkin - 06-24-2008
Bob,
no vibration..started with a squeak that sounded like a bushing. I heard that and I put the car up in the air and inspected everything. Found nothing wrong and the wheel had no play. Could not get the noise with the bearing unloaded. Put the car back down and drove it around the paddock and is got progressively worse in about a 10 minute time span. Looking back on it the cooler it got the worse it got. After it cooled it began a popping sound.
Another question for 993 owners. I get grease seepage out the end of the axles when driving on the track. Never get it on the street. While we had the car apart for the bearings (replaced both sides) also added grease to the CV joints. Anyone experience this?