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- bobt993 - 04-06-2007
Todd has been nominated for the "straw hat" award.
link, courtesy of Darren....
Watch the second lap forward.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3020365536453541509&hl=en
- Queboss - 04-06-2007
Funny.... A little bumpy but I'll keep that in mind if I don't have an instructor with me.
- jakp993 - 04-06-2007
Faster line up the esses? What esses? I didn't see any esses - looks like a straight to me
This definitely falls into the "do as I say, not as I do" category!
- Tony356993 - 04-06-2007
Oh my! A race and a rally at the same time.
- bobt993 - 04-06-2007
Darren said the corner work would call in every lap: " We have car 4 wheels off, but under control, he did that last lap too. I think someone should talk to him. "
Jack , is Todd signed up for Shenandoah? He could teach the advanced class on avoided the Karussel by using the grass. ...
hock:- Tony356993 - 04-06-2007
Quote:Jack , is Todd signed up for Shenandoah? He could teach the advanced class on avoided the Karussel by using the grass. ...And you could get it on video so we might be able to use it the classroom.
- jakp993 - 04-06-2007
Todd's an amazing driver. He did that race on street tires!
However, I don't think Todd's the only person to use that line. The grass is totally gone in that section of the track, so I think that's a reasonably common practice for folks who can get away with it from a car setup standpoint.
Don't think I could get away with it - I'd rip my front splitter off.
This demostrates some of the differences between racing & DE. There's no reason to do that in a DE. There's no reason to risk breaking your car because there's nothing at stake. Most of us do not view our cars as dispensible. Most of us treat our cars like expensive jewelry, while folks in NASA and SCCA treat their cars as a tool used to accomplish an objective. The objective has value, the tool has none.
PCA Club racing is a bit different as most folks think the tool has value as well
Jack
- bobt993 - 04-06-2007
I watched that video and hit rewind a few times. I absolutely could not do that in a 993. You would never make turn in before Southbend (spin or heavy brakes). Not enough weight up front. I also think he is going around 110 to 115 through there. My car data reads much higher because of higher entry speed under the bridge. Interesting how different cars can exploit the tracks secretes. Todd is a madman!
BTW, sent you a lead on a G50 if your still needing to do that.
- Racingswh - 04-07-2007
Some good shots of Todd's car from another one of my friends cars in the race. Just to give you an idea of pace they are putting down lap times in these little cars that are faster than all but the fastest in our Black group an probably one third to a half of the Red run group. The jelly bean looking red Nissan NX is being driven by Greg Amy last years SCCA National Champion in his class. You can see when Todd is in the grass GA is on him like glue. It explains what looked to be a defensive line by Todd which I didn't understand until I saw Eric's video. Eric is in an NA powered Nissan Sentra SE-R.
It's the last video on his video page. Right click and save.
http://www.ekrosen.com/racing.html
- Tony356993 - 04-07-2007
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DISQ
DISQ
PTC
108
William
Miller
Mazda
Protege
Silver
02:19.232
11
Lap 11
1
1
PTC
33
Matthew
Bookler
Honda
Civic Hybrid
Black
02:19.099
11
00:00:719
2
1
PTE
3
Greg
Amy
Nissan
NX2000
Red
02:19.772
11
00:02:410
DISQ
DISQ
PTE
177
Eric
Rosen
Nissan
Sentra SE-R
Black
02:20.673
11
00:09:316
3
2
PTE
11
Todd
Reid
Ford
Probe GT
white
02:21.447
11
00:19:092
4
1
Honda Chal 4
111
Chris
Perera
Acura
Integra
blue
02:21.164
11
00:19:789
5
1
PTD
90
Kevin
Schilling
Porsche
911 SC
Silver
02:20.683
11
00:20:523
6
2
Honda Chal 4
77
AJ
Nealey
Honda
CRX
Black
02:21.320
11
00:22:738
7
2
PTC
09
Team
Speakman Racing
Nissam
240SX
Red/White/Blue
02:20.202
11
00:27:391
8
3
Honda Chal 4
333
Trevor
Melville
Honda
Prelude
White
02:23.080
11
00:30:766
9
4
Honda Chal 4
31
Karl
Kondor
Honda
Accord
white
02:22.418
11
00:34:044
10
1
Spec Neon
21
Kevin
Fandozzi
Dodge
Neon
Purple
02:23.660
11
00:34:851
Those times for those car are good but they are slower then Black/Red RTR times.
Ask, Bob and Tom - they are in the 2:12 range.