Is Schroth Quick Fit Pro Harness Approved for PCA DE?

[John_Janick]

ToddPhilly wrote:

smankow wrote:

not a no-go for Schroth, just a no-go for the 4-point Schroth. Several of our drivers use Schroth belts (5 or 6 point).



steve

Steve,

Can you provide any further information on why the 4-pt harnesses are dangerous (or not as safe as factory 3-pt)? I'm just curious for my own personal benefit. If I decide to go with the Schroth 4-pt for non-PCA events, I want to feel good about my purchase. I've had a few drivers, bimmerworks in West Chester, and the tech-chair for Del Val BMWCCA recommend this particular harness as a very good compromise instead of doing a full racing seat, roll cage, 5/6pt setup. It's always good to know the other side of the argument!

Thanks!

Todd

Sorry to bump an old thread...

Most Schroth 4 points have anti-submarining systems. The real damger with running a harness, any harness, without a cage is in the event of a roll-over.

In the stock belt, if the roof comes in, you are free to be pushed to either side, prevent a compression-type injury. While in a harness, you are held upright, and therefore subjected to compression injuries should the roof come in.

Plenty of clubs, for this reason, do not allow you to run a harness without a roll-bar, period.

I'm not sure how a DOT certified 4 pt, with anti-sub is any more dangerous than a 5 or a 6 point belt, without a bar. No clubs I've ever run with distinguish between a 4,5, or 6 pt. belt (properly mounted), they distinguish with bar or no bar.