09-05-2008, 07:15 AM
Wellardmac wrote:
I watched both conventions. Conventions are pretty much about building there base and both did that well. Their really not meant for the voter who is own the fence. That courtship will be in the next two months. I thought all speeches were lame except for one. Last Thursday night before Obama spoke it was everything I could do to keep awake....just a lot of hype. I didn't think he could live up to it and the 85,000+ would go home pretty disappointed. He not only lived up to it hit it out of the park. 85K on their feet. Even Pat Buchanan said it was one of the best political speeches of his lifetime.
There are many people who feel as you do about our politicians. Do you realize that our politicians are us? The four people running right now pretty much came from no where. They were not the sons and daughters presidents or senators. They are people like you and I. I would suggest if your so unhappy with your choices to run for office. If you don't like what's going on why not try to change it!
Quote:Don't you love the extremists on both sides? I just wish that some could see the good and bad in both sides and speak with moderation, rather than clinging to their polar views.Without strong leadership Congress is pretty much worthless. It really doesn't matter if it's republican or democrat. You need a strong leader. It's why a CEO gets paid the big bucks......if their good, their company succeeds, if their bad the company flounders. The same can even be said of this club or any other for that matter. A strong leader can get things accomplish while a weak one just lets it go at the status quo while members of it's executive board argue their heads off!
Both conventions reminded me of the Nuremberg rallies... do we really think that's a good image for the world to see? Mindless morons shouting "USA!" without thought to thinking critically about any of the information they are being spoon fed. Both sides twist the truth and lie to suit their needs and feed their mindless party base - those that drink the nectar without thinking.
We should be ashamed that this is the best image we can project to the world.
I my mind this election is depressing because the candidates from both sides are pitiful.
In my mind it's not a question of who is best qualified to be president. It's a question of who will harm our country least. I dislike both candidates AND their VP picks.
Right now the best circumstance we can hope for is a split of powers so that neither side can continue the damage of the last 8 years, or inflict their own particular brand of devastation.
I would love to see congress in the hands of one party and the administration in the hands of another... oh, yes, we have that right now, a Congress is intent on passing worthless laws - 3000 of them since they were elected that achieved little of substance. National Watermelon Day. Say no more.
The Democrats were elected to congress on a spirit of change - not only have they failed to achieve that, they didn't even try to achieve it. They should go fire themselves in embarrassment - Despite their bluster they did nothing to reverse the damage that had been done, or limit future damage. When push came to shove, they capitulated and went with the flow... more surveillance? No problem! Immunity for telecoms? No problem? less freedom to protest? No problem! Limiting government spending? sorry, can't do that.
I feel sick to my stomach just thinking about it. Makes you want to go out and start a revolution... oh, sorry, don't have the freedom to do that anymore, that would make you a terrorist.
Anyone who supports either party should be ashamed.
As I said, my decision at this point is that I'm loathed to vote for any of these idiots, it's just a question of who will mess up the country less. When I figure that out I'll cast my vote.
I watched both conventions. Conventions are pretty much about building there base and both did that well. Their really not meant for the voter who is own the fence. That courtship will be in the next two months. I thought all speeches were lame except for one. Last Thursday night before Obama spoke it was everything I could do to keep awake....just a lot of hype. I didn't think he could live up to it and the 85,000+ would go home pretty disappointed. He not only lived up to it hit it out of the park. 85K on their feet. Even Pat Buchanan said it was one of the best political speeches of his lifetime.
There are many people who feel as you do about our politicians. Do you realize that our politicians are us? The four people running right now pretty much came from no where. They were not the sons and daughters presidents or senators. They are people like you and I. I would suggest if your so unhappy with your choices to run for office. If you don't like what's going on why not try to change it!
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