Who should be paid more money?

[Wellardmac]

LouZ wrote:

Oh, the whining of the misinformed! Did you walk the walk before you talk the talk?

Along with Art, my wife was a teacher prior to her disability. She had a Master's +30 credits, which puts her mighty close to a PhD. I believe that you are in some technical field, well, she was an A.P. chemistry teacher (how was your Organics, DiffyQ and PChem?). "Workload for Marking".....ever have to prepare 3 separate tests weekly, then run labs, followed by reading, evaluating and marking the reports WEEKLY?

I have first hand personal experience in whining about the workload after class was over for the day. During her last few months of classes, prior to "retiring" (full disability), I had to pick up the slack and help her every night and weekend because all of the "marking" had to be turned around in reasonable time.

And I don't buy the uninformed person's trite response...Oh, she's one of the exceptions! I'm a professional (limited to doctors, lawyers, engineers and teachers in the true sense of the word) and I don't put in as much time, have the stress, or have to put up with the wisea$$es that occupy the seats of our schools, nor Mommy and Daddy that think that they are superior to the teacher and that their child is always right.

Hey, I didn't knock the difficulties of teaching - they are considerable and challenging, but I won't listen to the complaints of teachers when it comes to pay and workload - sorry, I've had too many friends make the transition.

I DO walk the walk of being a professional scientist in industry faced with the challenges of being creative and inventive on a daily basis, oh and BTW, let's make sure that my next product makes $50 million per year for my company, or it's not worth doing. You want to talk productivity and impact, I'm your man.

The things that you mention above sound just like my workload during grad school and I was doing research on top of that. I have walked that walk.

I mean no disrespect, but I don't care how many credits your wife has on top of her Masters it doesn't make her a Ph.D. Credits do not make a Ph.D. - creativity, inventive process, logical and mechanistic thinking, etc make a Ph.D. A Ph.D is about making knowledge and pushing the boundaries of science - it's not about accumulating credits and taking tests.

As a scientist, I create the science that she teaches. If the science curriculum included cutting edge science, she would be teaching my stuff. Pity that the typical science curriculum hardly passes for science anymore. It's pitiful. The quality of students that I judge at science fair should make their teachers ashamed.