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03-22-2010, 05:13 AM
cjbcpa wrote:
No doubt these same words were stated by many in the 60's when the goverment passed civil rights and medicaid legislation, in the thirties, when Social Security was passed, when public education became a right, and in the 1860s when the government regulated property ownership.
Lets face it folks, we are all proponents of socialism, the difference between us is how much.
Also, to those of you who have formed an opinion based on uninformed rhetoric and generalizaitons and do not know what the bill includes, I submit as follows: Please review and then I will respect your opinion no matter which side you come down on.
People with "preexisting" health problems: Six months after the bills are enacted, health plans would be prohibited from excluding children who have preexisting conditions. In 2014, this prohibition would be extended to adults. That year, insurers would no longer be allowed to set annual limits, rescind coverage, or impose excessive waiting periods before coverage starts.
Young adults living on their own: Parents would be able to add nondependent children up to age 26 to existing insurance plans starting six months after the legislation is enacted.
Medicare beneficiaries: Currently, seniors with Medicare prescription coverage must pay out of their pocket for drug spending that falls between $2,830 and $6,440 because of the "doughnut hole" in the Medicare law.
Seniors who hit this "idiosyncratic feature" this year would get a $250 rebate. In 2011, the gap would be reduced through a discount on brand-name drugs. By 2020, it should be eliminated, although seniors would still have to pay 25 percent of their prescription-drug costs.
The uninsured: Almost everyone without insurance would have to get it by 2014 or pay a fine.
To make insurance more affordable, states would create purchasing pools, or "exchanges," in which private insurers would offer plans that small businesses and people without employer coverage can buy.
The federal government would subsidize insurance premiums for families earning up to four times the poverty level ($88,200 for a family of four). Tax credits would also be available to make premiums more affordable as a percentage of income.
For the poorest of the uninsured, Medicaid, the federal-state insurance program, would be expanded to cover people with incomes up to 133 percent of the poverty level ($29,327 for a family of four). Childless adults would also be eligible for Medicaid for the first time starting in 2014.
The federal government would pick up 100 percent of the cost of services to newly eligible individuals through 2016, and pay most of the costs thereafter.
People who choose to remain uninsured: Penalties would be phased in, reaching $695 for an individual or 2.5 percent of household income in 2016, whichever is greater.
Enforcement of the new system is expected to fall to the IRS, which would require taxpayers to file a certificate of insurance with their tax return - or pay the fine.
People already insured through employers: The overhaul aims to preserve the employer-based insurance system, so in the short term, covered employees should not be affected. "If you work for a large company, there's no reason they would drop or change the coverage," Field said.
People who have high-cost "Cadillac" insurance plans: Beginning in 2018, an excise tax would be imposed on high-cost group plans, including those of labor unions. The tax would apply to individual plans that cost $10,200 or more and family plans that cost $25,500. Dental and vision plans would not be included.
House Democrats dramatically scaled back this moneymaking provision of the Senate bill. To make up for the lost revenue, the Medicare payroll tax would be increased for individuals making more than $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000. Starting in 2013, people in these brackets would also pay a 3.8 percent tax on investment income, such as dividends, interest, and capital gains.
Primary-care physicians: When treating Medicaid patients - that is, poor people - these doctors would be paid up to 100 percent of Medicare rates beginning in 2013. Currently, their reimbursement is about 70 percent.
Quote:Health care for all is a great aspiration, but why stop there. Now that we've made it, and a college education an entitlement, how about food, clothing and shelter. There must be something left we haven't taxed yet to pay for it.
No doubt these same words were stated by many in the 60's when the goverment passed civil rights and medicaid legislation, in the thirties, when Social Security was passed, when public education became a right, and in the 1860s when the government regulated property ownership.
Lets face it folks, we are all proponents of socialism, the difference between us is how much.
Also, to those of you who have formed an opinion based on uninformed rhetoric and generalizaitons and do not know what the bill includes, I submit as follows: Please review and then I will respect your opinion no matter which side you come down on.
People with "preexisting" health problems: Six months after the bills are enacted, health plans would be prohibited from excluding children who have preexisting conditions. In 2014, this prohibition would be extended to adults. That year, insurers would no longer be allowed to set annual limits, rescind coverage, or impose excessive waiting periods before coverage starts.
Young adults living on their own: Parents would be able to add nondependent children up to age 26 to existing insurance plans starting six months after the legislation is enacted.
Medicare beneficiaries: Currently, seniors with Medicare prescription coverage must pay out of their pocket for drug spending that falls between $2,830 and $6,440 because of the "doughnut hole" in the Medicare law.
Seniors who hit this "idiosyncratic feature" this year would get a $250 rebate. In 2011, the gap would be reduced through a discount on brand-name drugs. By 2020, it should be eliminated, although seniors would still have to pay 25 percent of their prescription-drug costs.
The uninsured: Almost everyone without insurance would have to get it by 2014 or pay a fine.
To make insurance more affordable, states would create purchasing pools, or "exchanges," in which private insurers would offer plans that small businesses and people without employer coverage can buy.
The federal government would subsidize insurance premiums for families earning up to four times the poverty level ($88,200 for a family of four). Tax credits would also be available to make premiums more affordable as a percentage of income.
For the poorest of the uninsured, Medicaid, the federal-state insurance program, would be expanded to cover people with incomes up to 133 percent of the poverty level ($29,327 for a family of four). Childless adults would also be eligible for Medicaid for the first time starting in 2014.
The federal government would pick up 100 percent of the cost of services to newly eligible individuals through 2016, and pay most of the costs thereafter.
People who choose to remain uninsured: Penalties would be phased in, reaching $695 for an individual or 2.5 percent of household income in 2016, whichever is greater.
Enforcement of the new system is expected to fall to the IRS, which would require taxpayers to file a certificate of insurance with their tax return - or pay the fine.
People already insured through employers: The overhaul aims to preserve the employer-based insurance system, so in the short term, covered employees should not be affected. "If you work for a large company, there's no reason they would drop or change the coverage," Field said.
People who have high-cost "Cadillac" insurance plans: Beginning in 2018, an excise tax would be imposed on high-cost group plans, including those of labor unions. The tax would apply to individual plans that cost $10,200 or more and family plans that cost $25,500. Dental and vision plans would not be included.
House Democrats dramatically scaled back this moneymaking provision of the Senate bill. To make up for the lost revenue, the Medicare payroll tax would be increased for individuals making more than $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000. Starting in 2013, people in these brackets would also pay a 3.8 percent tax on investment income, such as dividends, interest, and capital gains.
Primary-care physicians: When treating Medicaid patients - that is, poor people - these doctors would be paid up to 100 percent of Medicare rates beginning in 2013. Currently, their reimbursement is about 70 percent.
Aaron Moore
2007 BMW 335xi twin turbo
2011 Chevrolet Traverse
1971 Schwinn Peapicker with full suspension - all original and one mean ride!
Traxxas Revo Monster Truck 1/10 scale Nitro
2007 BMW 335xi twin turbo
2011 Chevrolet Traverse
1971 Schwinn Peapicker with full suspension - all original and one mean ride!
Traxxas Revo Monster Truck 1/10 scale Nitro