additional debate over health care reform

[AMoore]

larrybard wrote:

AMoore wrote: [quote]Education is not addressed in the Constitution, however, rights are not limited to those inalianable rights identified by the founders, or the words of our Constitution. Rights can be bestowed upon people in a democratic society.

Seems to me that alone says worlds about how you have viewed the issues. No need to be encumbered by what the Constitution says, or am I misreading your statement?
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I'm not sure I understand your point. Do you actually believe that the only rights we have are those specifically enumerated in the Constitution that was drafted in 1789 and supplemented periodically thereafter? If your asking if that is what I believe the answer is no. Nor am I a strict constructionist. Nonetheless, if you believe that health care is a state issue being pushed through under the commerce clause, OK, so why would it be any better as a state program, by which someone like Mitt Romney taxes the haves for the benefit of the have nots.

Does hc reform fall under the commerce clause? Did civil rights legislation? Perhaps the commerce clause was just an excuse to give the fed government more authority over what were perceived as backward states. How will hc reform be perceived in 50 years? How was the emancipation proclamation perceived in 1863? How was civil rights legislation perceived in 1965? How was social security legislation perceived when it was enacted under FDR.

700 billion dollars per year in our defense budget? Compare that to the cost of health care reform - better yet compare that to the cost of not repairing the health care crisis?

Again for the 5th time - please comment on my repeated statement. We are all socialists to an extent?