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03-20-2007, 01:50 AM
michael lang wrote:
Yup, pretty silly to tell them that you have a Porsche. May as well lay a wad of bills in front of them, then tell them that you're not giving them any. One of the rules of buying a car is not to show signs of wealth. I don't know a bigger sign of wealth then pulling up to the dealership in a Porsche, or telling them that you have one.
As for the customers lying conversation. I was actually quite shocked to learn this. I had a similar conversation with the salesman that did sell me the car and I'd never realized that there's a problem with customers lying - never even occurred to me. The subject came up when he complimented me about being so honest about the condition of my trade-in. I would never even consider soing such a thing.
It's a pretty sad state of affairs when the customer doesn't trust the salesperson and vice versa.
One of the reasons I did all of my negotiations by phone and email was because I didn't want to go through the grinder. The saleperson got 1 opportunity to give me their best price. I was honest that if they didn't give me the price I wanted, then I'd go on to another dealership until I got the price I wanted.
The lack trust really bugs me. I'd much prefer them to give me their best price with a reasonable profit built in and not have to go through haggling, etc. To me a car is just another purchase, like an iPod - it should be fixed price. There's a natural assumption that they're gouging and that the customer is lying. Not good for either party, but the sad truth is that both sides are correct in their perception and it continues the problem.
The first place that I went to (the one I mentioned in my first post) - I caught the salesman in 2 lies. He blew it and I moved on. The place I bought from was pretty good.... they overinflated their profit margins (like the "extended warranty" with the price that was cut in half when I declined it twice), but we fixed that in the final deal.
Overall not a bad experience.
Quote:Actually the saying in the car business goes "you can always tell when a customer is lying because he opens his mouth" Anyway, I still would not have let on. When someone makes a comment about a P-car I usually just smile and agree "yeah, they're very nice cars" meanwhile in the back of my mind I'm thinking that lucky is bastard driving his car and I'm not driving mine.
Yup, pretty silly to tell them that you have a Porsche. May as well lay a wad of bills in front of them, then tell them that you're not giving them any. One of the rules of buying a car is not to show signs of wealth. I don't know a bigger sign of wealth then pulling up to the dealership in a Porsche, or telling them that you have one.
As for the customers lying conversation. I was actually quite shocked to learn this. I had a similar conversation with the salesman that did sell me the car and I'd never realized that there's a problem with customers lying - never even occurred to me. The subject came up when he complimented me about being so honest about the condition of my trade-in. I would never even consider soing such a thing.
It's a pretty sad state of affairs when the customer doesn't trust the salesperson and vice versa.
One of the reasons I did all of my negotiations by phone and email was because I didn't want to go through the grinder. The saleperson got 1 opportunity to give me their best price. I was honest that if they didn't give me the price I wanted, then I'd go on to another dealership until I got the price I wanted.
The lack trust really bugs me. I'd much prefer them to give me their best price with a reasonable profit built in and not have to go through haggling, etc. To me a car is just another purchase, like an iPod - it should be fixed price. There's a natural assumption that they're gouging and that the customer is lying. Not good for either party, but the sad truth is that both sides are correct in their perception and it continues the problem.
The first place that I went to (the one I mentioned in my first post) - I caught the salesman in 2 lies. He blew it and I moved on. The place I bought from was pretty good.... they overinflated their profit margins (like the "extended warranty" with the price that was cut in half when I declined it twice), but we fixed that in the final deal.
Overall not a bad experience.