Lightning three day pictures

[bobt993]

"Myles......  I wasn't out there for that session so how could I be on your list of infractions??? "

[TwentySix]

I think Michael was going for something like this:

[opus]

STEVEMCMORN wrote:

[size="3"][/size] [size="3"]“it takes different strokes to rule the world ….. yes it does, different strokes to ruuuuuuuuule the world!�?[/size]

[size="3"]- AX has pros and cons[/size]

[size="3"]- DE has pros and cons[/size]

[size="3"]Ax is cheap, safe, teaches good car control and usually only takes ½ a day so doesn’t cause much grief from the old bread knife.[/size]

[size="3"]DE is not cheap, not so safe and usually requires 3 or 4 days away from home which causes a great deal of grief from the wife … but I love it and I love the social side after the track closes[/size]
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[size="3"]For the smart novice, I would suggest the following stepped approach is the best way forward: [/size]

[size="3"]start with AX then try DE and then try racing[/size]

I am a beginner here in both AX and DE. My take: auto-x takes up too much time for so little driving. DE is great but speeds are too fast to develop car control skills, as I certainly will be driving within my limits. We need something in-between auto-x and DE. Speeds somewhere in between as well. I guess it is sort of a roadcourse auto-x, but more than just one car there. If we can put cones in a road course to slow speed down, that will likely be ideal AX/DE sort of event. What do you guys think?

So, what have I done so far. I am doing as much auto-x / car control clinics schools as I can before going back to DE in the Oct 16-18 event. I am going the schools route, as I can't stand spending a whole day for 6-8 30-60sec runs.

[betegh9]

opus wrote:

STEVEMCMORN wrote:

[size="3"][/size] [size="3"]“it takes different strokes to rule the world ….. yes it does, different strokes to ruuuuuuuuule the world!�?[/size]

[size="3"]- AX has pros and cons[/size]

[size="3"]- DE has pros and cons[/size]

[size="3"]Ax is cheap, safe, teaches good car control and usually only takes ½ a day so doesn’t cause much grief from the old bread knife.[/size]

[size="3"]DE is not cheap, not so safe and usually requires 3 or 4 days away from home which causes a great deal of grief from the wife … but I love it and I love the social side after the track closes[/size]
[size="3"][/size]
[size="3"]For the smart novice, I would suggest the following stepped approach is the best way forward: [/size]

[size="3"]start with AX then try DE and then try racing[/size]

I am a beginner here in both AX and DE. My take: auto-x takes up too much time for so little driving. DE is great but speeds are too fast to develop car control skills, as I certainly will be driving within my limits. We need something in-between auto-x and DE. Speeds somewhere in between as well. I guess it is sort of a roadcourse auto-x, but more than just one car there. If we can put cones in a road course to slow speed down, that will likely be ideal AX/DE sort of event. What do you guys think?

So, what have I done so far. I am doing as much auto-x / car control clinics schools as I can before going back to DE in the Oct 16-18 event. I am going the schools route, as I can't stand spending a whole day for 6-8 30-60sec runs.

Opus! Do what I did many years ago.......... find an empty high school parking lot on a weekend, get someone that knows what and how to teach to go along. Do skidpad, threshold braking and slalom exercises by setting a few cheap cones of some sort. Do this all day or till someone comes along with a badge and throws you out.hock:hock:

The speed you achieve will depend on the lot size, experience and your right foot. The more you get a feel for the way the car behaves, the more you'll use the right foot. the skidpad is really the best tool in a car control clinic.

[opus]

betegh9 wrote:

Opus! Do what I did many years ago.......... find an empty high school parking lot on a weekend, get someone that knows what and how to teach to go along. Do skidpad, threshold braking and slalom exercises by setting a few cheap cones of some sort. Do this all day or till someone comes along with a badge and throws you out.hock:hock:

The speed you achieve will depend on the lot size, experience and your right foot. The more you get a feel for the way the car behaves, the more you'll use the right foot. the skidpad is really the best tool in a car control clinic.

That's what one of the members here did. He's now an instructor. I got to find a big parking lot. Ideally, I would like to do it when the ground is wet, so I'll skid easier. :dude:

[Mike Andrews]

I'm not too sure Nick's suggestion won't get you a fine, or possibly gail time,  in today's world. 

 

FWIW, I learned a lot driving in the snow.  It allows you to get the car loose at much lower speeds than anything else.  But as with above, finding a safe place to practice is hard in today's times.

 

And I think the most bang for the buck is go-karts.  A group of use would get together and rent the track (Arnold's at the time but there are others now) for an hour or two and go out until you couildn't hoid the steering wheel any longer.