03-30-2008, 04:20 PM
Wellardmac wrote:
Wayne, you are correct that is was the "experts" who caused this mess that we are in. Those same experts are the same ones who advocate the liberal ideas of social welfare and governmental intervention. Now, we can label you a conservative. Have you been hanging around Rush Limbauh, or GWB lately.
Unfortunately, by the time the children have gotten to school, it is difficult to undo the damage their parents have done to them. Kids spend more time out of school than they do in school. The time constraints prevent schools from teaching discipline. There simply is not enough time nor the level of close interaction from teacher to student at school to teach discipline. Discipline needs to be taught one on one or two on one or one on two to be most effective. When there is discipline in the school, but not in the home, all that is learned is soon forgotten or ignored.
It is great that you and your wife spend a lot of time with your children. The most successful adults generally come from homes where they are shown love, discipline and attention. This is the style my wife and I strive for. We try to be the best parents possible, continue to learn each day. Unless you sequester your children they will hear about Hannah, Jonnas, Cheetah Girls and worse. It is our duty as parents to screen what they actually see and hear.
I believe that children should have toys to play with. Especially toys that encourage creative play. It is not the number of toys that a child has, but how they are chosen and given. A child should not have everything they want. Young children should not ask for toys or gifts, toys should be given at the parents discretion. When one of my children asks for a toy, I say no.
What political ideology do you feel I most identify with?
Quote:Agreed. Unfortunately, I cannot change, nor worry about the poor parenting of others - it's not my place in life to tell others how to parent. I can only worry about the things that I can change. - Parenting is at best highly subjective and variable. What is good for one kid/family may not be good for another.
I took a look at the links that you posted and on the surface what he's saying makes sense. Unfortunately, it's "experts" like him meddling in family life that have gotten us to where we are... "can't do x,y,x or it will harm the kids'.
I'm sorry, I'll call it as it is. It's these so called "experts" that eroded parents ability to discipline, it's so called "experts" like this that cause you to get frowned upon if you discipline children in public. That guy might be great, but his credibility has been hurt by generations of his peers meddling in the lives of families and bringing us to where we are today.
In the absence of discipline in the home you can try to get schools to educate the kids and teach them values and hope that it sticks enough that they then transfer those values to their children. I do know that I don't want anyone outside of my house telling me how to raise my kids. It's hard enough fighting peer pressure of kids and parents without the government and so-called "experts" telling us how to do the job.
My wife and I decided before our first was on the way how we wanted to raise our children - it was our pact. No raising them in front of tv, no video games, no pandering to fads and advertising. We would raise the kids to reflect values of consideration, honesty, integrity and trust. We are the advertiser's nightmare. I want my kids to say "Hannah, who?".
We're active parents and we will decide how our kids get raised. The first step was rejecting our country's materialistic culture. We warned our family that they would be limited to one christmas/birthday present and if they sent anything we disapproved of, then it would either be returned, or donated to charity. We're aiming to raise kids outside the mainstream because we believe that the mainstream has been perverted and lost it's way.
As you can tell, my philosophy on government intervention is consistent. They should be there to serve the population, not bully or intervene in their lives where they have no business.
Considering that I was one of the lucky ones that had a choice where I lived in the world, I am very appreciative of the good things that living in the US brings. The flip side is that I have seen other lifestyles and cultures and I also know what I have given up by living here.
Wayne, you are correct that is was the "experts" who caused this mess that we are in. Those same experts are the same ones who advocate the liberal ideas of social welfare and governmental intervention. Now, we can label you a conservative. Have you been hanging around Rush Limbauh, or GWB lately.
Unfortunately, by the time the children have gotten to school, it is difficult to undo the damage their parents have done to them. Kids spend more time out of school than they do in school. The time constraints prevent schools from teaching discipline. There simply is not enough time nor the level of close interaction from teacher to student at school to teach discipline. Discipline needs to be taught one on one or two on one or one on two to be most effective. When there is discipline in the school, but not in the home, all that is learned is soon forgotten or ignored.
It is great that you and your wife spend a lot of time with your children. The most successful adults generally come from homes where they are shown love, discipline and attention. This is the style my wife and I strive for. We try to be the best parents possible, continue to learn each day. Unless you sequester your children they will hear about Hannah, Jonnas, Cheetah Girls and worse. It is our duty as parents to screen what they actually see and hear.
I believe that children should have toys to play with. Especially toys that encourage creative play. It is not the number of toys that a child has, but how they are chosen and given. A child should not have everything they want. Young children should not ask for toys or gifts, toys should be given at the parents discretion. When one of my children asks for a toy, I say no.
What political ideology do you feel I most identify with?
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1. a person attached to another by feelings of affection or personal regard.
2. a person who gives assistance; patron; supporter: friends of the Boston Symphony.
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