04-02-2008, 03:02 AM
emayer wrote:
Your correct in that this started decades ago. Actually it started during the Regan administration and Regannomics.
No one said it would be easy to teach anyone. But wait lets not buckle up when we drive lets just get thrown through the windshield a time or two and then we'll use our seat belts! Oh please!
Myself and many others have posted what they thought it would take to get this country headed in the right direction by reinvesting in infrastructure, science, education, tax breaks for the middle class, ending the Iraq war , etc. Certainly you would agree that Oil company's who have made 120+ billion dollars in profit don't need 19 billion in tax relief. Or do you?
Now as others have mentioned earlier name a few positive legitimate things our great leader GW has done for this country.
We're listening.
Quote:nplenzick wrote:Quote:emayer wrote:Quote:Please consider my comments carefully, none of what I propose is that extreme. I don't think we need a Depression to get our country back on track either. I suggested only that we allow the forces of capitalism (on which this country is founded) a chance to play out the mortgage fiasco on its own. No more government handouts or additional tax burdens on all of us to mitigate against those who made poor financial choices in purchasing those McMansions you criticize and the banks that funded them. What is the issue with that? How are we as a nation going to alter our consumptive ways if the hard lessons aren't dealt?
Your quote "Allow free market forces to play this out. A harsh and and costly lesson on the scale of the Great Depression".
The problem is if we didn't bail out Bear Sterns no one could predict what would happen. Many banks could have failed leading to a domino effect which could have effected the average Joe who has been living well with in his means. The Fed did the right thing. I'm I glad they had to do it? Hell No! Nobody's going to bail my ass out, and believe me my ass is on the line right now with this business.
I suspect that we'll see some new legislation on the books and guidelines in the next year or so. Most of the experts agree, if we dodged the bullet they wouldn't want to go through this again.
You can teach a child two ways to not touch a hot stove, you can put his hand on it until their skin sizzles or you can educate them about what could happen. Both ways will work. But which one makes the most sense?
The "free market" with the current administration is an illusion my friend. Controlled by very large special interest groups.
You are correct we will have some sacrifices to make and if GW would have begun that process the days and weeks after 911 we would have big head start by now!
To think the issues we are discussing are purely the result of the current administration is delusional. The problems we face today are the result of poor governance decades ago.
You think these banks will avoid risk to make a quick buck in the future ESPECIALLY if the Fed is going to bail them out each time? Remember the S&L crisis? That was no more than 20 years ago.
If children listened to all the lessons given life would be easy. Occasionally punishment is in order to get the point across. Better yet children sometimes have to be left to their own devices to learn things on their own.
Other than replacing GW, I'm still waiting for your input as to what this country could do to alleviate the present situation and regain our declining status within the global economy.
Your correct in that this started decades ago. Actually it started during the Regan administration and Regannomics.
No one said it would be easy to teach anyone. But wait lets not buckle up when we drive lets just get thrown through the windshield a time or two and then we'll use our seat belts! Oh please!
Myself and many others have posted what they thought it would take to get this country headed in the right direction by reinvesting in infrastructure, science, education, tax breaks for the middle class, ending the Iraq war , etc. Certainly you would agree that Oil company's who have made 120+ billion dollars in profit don't need 19 billion in tax relief. Or do you?
Now as others have mentioned earlier name a few positive legitimate things our great leader GW has done for this country.
We're listening.
Past RTR member