11-07-2006, 12:53 PM
Great ideas guys........
Let me work down the list. I hope I got them all.
I like the idea of the drivers meeting indoors and we do that at the Glen and at Pocono when the weather doesn't agree. Having the meeting indoor at SP may be a great idea this weekend. And we could hold the meeting indoor (upstairs) at Shenandoah. The only place that wouldn't work is Jefferson Circuit.
A sticker at the drivers meeting is not a bad idea, do we know of people that don't attend the drivers meeting? If so, why doesn't that information get back to me? Should we try something at this week’s event to see who doesn't come?
Sending the next car out is controlled by the corner worker crew. Some of them are comfortable starting the course check a little earlier than the others. We finally got the guys at the Glen to start releasing the cars as the group out on track is coming out of the boot...... On the smaller tracks I don't know that an extra 30 seconds is that big a deal but I guess if it's there we might as well use it.
We have done grid tech at the hotel on the night prior in the past. And it coincided with cars showing up at pit out the next day with stuff still in the back seat. This is something where I think it should be done at the track. If time is an issue then we should solicit more volunteers and run an extra tech line. Actually I like that idea, add another line and spend a little more time with each car. Especially on day two and three of the event.
Yep, those numbers are a great idea. I don't understand why people haven't bought them for themselves, it's not like you don't have the same number for pretty much your entire life at RTR. Of course we could add a couple bucks to everyone entrance fee and then create a supply of numbers for people to use. Heck, I can't even get people to bring the same car they registered with ....LOL.... But while we are on the topic, numbers on all four corners of your car!
Yep, we thought about running non stop, but the corner workers don't agree. Of course if we wanted to start own corner working hock: we could do that. Trust me, I think this is better left the way it is.
First lap on a yellow. I've never understood this. You know the track is cold, or rather your tires are cold. Everyone should be able to get around the track and manage their speed. And when someone comes up behind a guy that's being extra careful they can get around rather than being stuck for a lap with no passing under a yellow flag. This one is no big deal either way and if the general population wanted a yellow for the first lap, or two, we could certainly make that change.
Access to the track varies by track. The guys at Summit Point are pretty cool about early access. Pocono wants $500 for security. While that's only 5 bucks per person I don't know how many people would want to stay overnight at Pocono. I can't remember what the Glen charges but I think they are pretty cool about letting people stay over the nights that we are there. They just don't let us in the night before. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that assigning the garages went a long way in addressing some of the confusion in setting up at the Glen?
Finding students - instructors can be an issue. I've heard some regions parade (introduce) their instructors through the drivers meeting so the students can find them. FWIW, I know of a few instructors that take their assignments and contact their student(s) the week before. That opens up a communication and I would also suspect helps in finding each other at the track. Tony, if you need any help finding your student at this event, just let me know and I'll introduce her to you.
The maps are a great idea. And the video is an even better one. We should bring this up to Tom/Jack and see if they can incorporate this into 2007. Does this already exist for the tracks that we use?
We continually talk about a solo day. We used to have two but one of them was consumed by MAW. Again, we should see about adding a one day event at Pocono. One where we could just drive up in the morning and go home at the end of the day. We'd only have to take one day off of work. And here's a twist on that day and your suggestion of more space for students. How about we have a one day event and have the students pay for the whole track and dinner for the instructors. It wouldn't cost any more than usual but having an extra student group would more than offset the cost of the free instructor portion. The instructors would need to buy into this as it would certainly work them harder than a normal event. But I do think it's something most of our guys would do if it were only once a year or every other year. It's something we've talked about but never put it into motion.
I/we appreciate all of your kind comments, a number of people work very hard putting these events together. And we appreciate all of your suggestions. We certainly don’t have all the answers and when you guys see something new or isn’t obvious to us then we want/need to know about it. It a family effort and I like the fact that it continues to grow.
Let me work down the list. I hope I got them all.
I like the idea of the drivers meeting indoors and we do that at the Glen and at Pocono when the weather doesn't agree. Having the meeting indoor at SP may be a great idea this weekend. And we could hold the meeting indoor (upstairs) at Shenandoah. The only place that wouldn't work is Jefferson Circuit.
A sticker at the drivers meeting is not a bad idea, do we know of people that don't attend the drivers meeting? If so, why doesn't that information get back to me? Should we try something at this week’s event to see who doesn't come?
Sending the next car out is controlled by the corner worker crew. Some of them are comfortable starting the course check a little earlier than the others. We finally got the guys at the Glen to start releasing the cars as the group out on track is coming out of the boot...... On the smaller tracks I don't know that an extra 30 seconds is that big a deal but I guess if it's there we might as well use it.
We have done grid tech at the hotel on the night prior in the past. And it coincided with cars showing up at pit out the next day with stuff still in the back seat. This is something where I think it should be done at the track. If time is an issue then we should solicit more volunteers and run an extra tech line. Actually I like that idea, add another line and spend a little more time with each car. Especially on day two and three of the event.
Yep, those numbers are a great idea. I don't understand why people haven't bought them for themselves, it's not like you don't have the same number for pretty much your entire life at RTR. Of course we could add a couple bucks to everyone entrance fee and then create a supply of numbers for people to use. Heck, I can't even get people to bring the same car they registered with ....LOL.... But while we are on the topic, numbers on all four corners of your car!
Yep, we thought about running non stop, but the corner workers don't agree. Of course if we wanted to start own corner working hock: we could do that. Trust me, I think this is better left the way it is.
First lap on a yellow. I've never understood this. You know the track is cold, or rather your tires are cold. Everyone should be able to get around the track and manage their speed. And when someone comes up behind a guy that's being extra careful they can get around rather than being stuck for a lap with no passing under a yellow flag. This one is no big deal either way and if the general population wanted a yellow for the first lap, or two, we could certainly make that change.
Access to the track varies by track. The guys at Summit Point are pretty cool about early access. Pocono wants $500 for security. While that's only 5 bucks per person I don't know how many people would want to stay overnight at Pocono. I can't remember what the Glen charges but I think they are pretty cool about letting people stay over the nights that we are there. They just don't let us in the night before. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that assigning the garages went a long way in addressing some of the confusion in setting up at the Glen?
Finding students - instructors can be an issue. I've heard some regions parade (introduce) their instructors through the drivers meeting so the students can find them. FWIW, I know of a few instructors that take their assignments and contact their student(s) the week before. That opens up a communication and I would also suspect helps in finding each other at the track. Tony, if you need any help finding your student at this event, just let me know and I'll introduce her to you.
The maps are a great idea. And the video is an even better one. We should bring this up to Tom/Jack and see if they can incorporate this into 2007. Does this already exist for the tracks that we use?
We continually talk about a solo day. We used to have two but one of them was consumed by MAW. Again, we should see about adding a one day event at Pocono. One where we could just drive up in the morning and go home at the end of the day. We'd only have to take one day off of work. And here's a twist on that day and your suggestion of more space for students. How about we have a one day event and have the students pay for the whole track and dinner for the instructors. It wouldn't cost any more than usual but having an extra student group would more than offset the cost of the free instructor portion. The instructors would need to buy into this as it would certainly work them harder than a normal event. But I do think it's something most of our guys would do if it were only once a year or every other year. It's something we've talked about but never put it into motion.
I/we appreciate all of your kind comments, a number of people work very hard putting these events together. And we appreciate all of your suggestions. We certainly don’t have all the answers and when you guys see something new or isn’t obvious to us then we want/need to know about it. It a family effort and I like the fact that it continues to grow.
Michael Andrews