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11-08-2006, 03:33 PM
elizabeth26 wrote:
I chose my own group while attending the Schattenbaum's DE. I chose the "intermediate" group because I was running my NA car. In hindsight, I should have been in the faster group. Too much lollie gagging in the turns for my taste. Of course, having a low hp. car made for some loooong straightaway passes. If I brought the turbo car, most of it's potiential would have been wasted in that group. Definitely would have been better in the faster group. So, while it's based on a combination of car and driver, it's still mostly about relative speed at Schattenbaum. Of course, if you have zero experience, they require you in an instructed group.
BSR FATT events have two groups. Novice and intermediate/advanced. Once you get through the signoff process for that, you can run solo in their Seat time events. I was Seat-time qualified based on what they saw after my first event. For some, it takes years, if at all. I'm not saying that to brag, but to point out they're basing it on the criteria required, not a "progression" through a ranking system. Either your good enough or you're not to run solo. Pretty simple. The Seat time events usually have 3 or 4 groups depending on the sanctioned event it's butted up too. A lot of the racers use it as a practice day prior to a race weekend. So they have a street car class, and a few different classes for the race guys. While that's not the same as what I referred to earlier, it's still not based on the driver so much as it is the cars out on the track. Most of the people bring stout equipment to these events and all are pre-qualified to be on track alone. Although, the SCCA peps get a little kooky at times.![[Image: 4_6_216.gif]](http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_216.gif)
PDA worked similar to Schattenbaum, after showing them my credentials and what car I was bringing, they gave me the nod for either instructor or the hotrod group. I forget what color schemes they use. I think black was instructors. I chose instructor because they were short at the time. It was a good time but instructing, fixing my car
and driving was a bit much to handle all in one day. I'm not sure I'd do that again.
While I'll admit, Schattenbaum and PDA were a bit trusting up front, they did keep an eye on me to make sure I was who I said I was. I certainly wouldn't endorse RTR to be that trusting to people they don't know. I'm sure the way RTR works, currently, is fine for most members. I'm just point out, as the theme of this thread suggests, how other orgs. are doing it and maybe something can be learned...or not.![[Image: 4_12_10.gif]](http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_10.gif)
Quote:I guess the better question is who have you driven with that organizes their groups in the way that you've outlined (by speed potential of the car)? I've driven with BSR a few times, and my husband has run with the PDA...
I chose my own group while attending the Schattenbaum's DE. I chose the "intermediate" group because I was running my NA car. In hindsight, I should have been in the faster group. Too much lollie gagging in the turns for my taste. Of course, having a low hp. car made for some loooong straightaway passes. If I brought the turbo car, most of it's potiential would have been wasted in that group. Definitely would have been better in the faster group. So, while it's based on a combination of car and driver, it's still mostly about relative speed at Schattenbaum. Of course, if you have zero experience, they require you in an instructed group.
BSR FATT events have two groups. Novice and intermediate/advanced. Once you get through the signoff process for that, you can run solo in their Seat time events. I was Seat-time qualified based on what they saw after my first event. For some, it takes years, if at all. I'm not saying that to brag, but to point out they're basing it on the criteria required, not a "progression" through a ranking system. Either your good enough or you're not to run solo. Pretty simple. The Seat time events usually have 3 or 4 groups depending on the sanctioned event it's butted up too. A lot of the racers use it as a practice day prior to a race weekend. So they have a street car class, and a few different classes for the race guys. While that's not the same as what I referred to earlier, it's still not based on the driver so much as it is the cars out on the track. Most of the people bring stout equipment to these events and all are pre-qualified to be on track alone. Although, the SCCA peps get a little kooky at times.
PDA worked similar to Schattenbaum, after showing them my credentials and what car I was bringing, they gave me the nod for either instructor or the hotrod group. I forget what color schemes they use. I think black was instructors. I chose instructor because they were short at the time. It was a good time but instructing, fixing my car
and driving was a bit much to handle all in one day. I'm not sure I'd do that again. While I'll admit, Schattenbaum and PDA were a bit trusting up front, they did keep an eye on me to make sure I was who I said I was. I certainly wouldn't endorse RTR to be that trusting to people they don't know. I'm sure the way RTR works, currently, is fine for most members. I'm just point out, as the theme of this thread suggests, how other orgs. are doing it and maybe something can be learned...or not.