11-08-2006, 06:24 PM
bobt993 wrote:
I never said anything about hp and run groups....re-read what I wrote.
Exactly, I was in a group that wasn't quick enough for me. Which is why I shouldn't have to stay in that group. In the particular car I had, I was quicker, therefore next time I'll request the black group for that car. There's really nothing more to it than that. RTR doesn't work that way. Okay.
I never said driver skill doesn't play a part in being quick. What I said was in order to qualify to be solo you should be quick, given the potential of the car you’re in, among other criteria. Again, re-read what I wrote. Some of the folks I was out with at Schattenbaum, probably needed more instruction with regards to picking up the pace. I dunno. In any event, due to their no passing in the corner rule, I was held up. Not a big deal, but if I had my choice, (which I do) I'll choose not to be held up next time. Simple.
You're using examples of how high-end racing series operate in a comparison to a local DE event? Last time I checked, DE is not suppose to be competitive. I think there in lies part of the problem.
I've already done my share of competitve racing, although be it in karting. It's less hassle to run advanced DE's and spare myself the headaches and expense of a competitive series. 44 cup? That would mean being in a slower car...
Quote:Hank,Argument? huh? I was merely pointing out what I see as odd with RTR's DE's.
Reading through your threads and initial argument, I see a contradiction here. You want hp/cars being the guideline for run groups. This may account for straight away speeds, but not corner entry/exit speeds. Big difference as Mike said is driver skill level. I have come up on HP cars into say T1 at the Glen and had them brake waaaay tooo much, then hit the brakes again before turn in.
You stated you want similar performing cars, but then in another comment complain that guys were "lolly gagging in the turns" with another PCA club and you should have run in the higher group. This supports Mike's statement of skill level. ALMS, GAC, and Rolex run various classess at the same time. Time diffs can be 15-20 secs a lap and yet corner speeds are much closer.
I would suggest you try club racing, say with a spec 944. You will get much closer car performance and the opportunity to see where guys make up time with ability.
I never said anything about hp and run groups....re-read what I wrote.
Exactly, I was in a group that wasn't quick enough for me. Which is why I shouldn't have to stay in that group. In the particular car I had, I was quicker, therefore next time I'll request the black group for that car. There's really nothing more to it than that. RTR doesn't work that way. Okay.
I never said driver skill doesn't play a part in being quick. What I said was in order to qualify to be solo you should be quick, given the potential of the car you’re in, among other criteria. Again, re-read what I wrote. Some of the folks I was out with at Schattenbaum, probably needed more instruction with regards to picking up the pace. I dunno. In any event, due to their no passing in the corner rule, I was held up. Not a big deal, but if I had my choice, (which I do) I'll choose not to be held up next time. Simple.
You're using examples of how high-end racing series operate in a comparison to a local DE event? Last time I checked, DE is not suppose to be competitive. I think there in lies part of the problem.
I've already done my share of competitve racing, although be it in karting. It's less hassle to run advanced DE's and spare myself the headaches and expense of a competitive series. 44 cup? That would mean being in a slower car...