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01-23-2009, 02:11 PM
Racingswh wrote:
We're always going to knock it down a notch for DE because we want everyone to be safe and have fun. The Green group drivers are easier for instructors in the rain (I think) because they are going slower. It's more difficult to instruct the people that are faster in blue/white because things happen much faster. So I disagree, I think it's more challenging the more knowledge you get! The bottom line is step it down and approach the limits very slowly. If you exceed them by 1 mph, probably not dangerous. If you exceed them 10 mph in the rain, probably a much bigger issue.
But this is why DE is a great way to learn also -- we're not worried about lap times, you can learn at your own pace, and no one should feel pushed to go faster. I don't understand some people saying they won't drive a certain track, or in the wet, because if you feel uneasy just step it down, who cares?
The tendency is, esp in the Porsche club, is that most of us want to get promoted and go faster. That is the wrong philosophy for what we do. If that is how someone honestly feels, that they want to be the fastest, then talk to me or one of the other racers and we can talk about racing programs to go fast -- like Glen is getting into.
DE is about safe fun (go ahead Bob, pass me I'm slow I don't care)
Racing is about aggression! (grr, my apex Todd!!!! I might even hit you!)
No doubt racing is what makes the fastest guys faster.
Quote:From reading about your WG slippery track experience Bob it makes me realize that it can't really be taught. If you were a guy who did 3 to 4 track events a year in a competent car with high corner speeds that you drive near the limit but never over then you would have crashed under those same circumstances.
Quote:Rain driving is good for people that already have some level of skill pertaining to car control. To those that have no skill set in that regard it can be dangerous.It's a good discusssion and the questions are almost as valuable as the answers. Being interested in these questions shows a lot of understanding, both for you and people reading.
We're always going to knock it down a notch for DE because we want everyone to be safe and have fun. The Green group drivers are easier for instructors in the rain (I think) because they are going slower. It's more difficult to instruct the people that are faster in blue/white because things happen much faster. So I disagree, I think it's more challenging the more knowledge you get! The bottom line is step it down and approach the limits very slowly. If you exceed them by 1 mph, probably not dangerous. If you exceed them 10 mph in the rain, probably a much bigger issue.
But this is why DE is a great way to learn also -- we're not worried about lap times, you can learn at your own pace, and no one should feel pushed to go faster. I don't understand some people saying they won't drive a certain track, or in the wet, because if you feel uneasy just step it down, who cares?
The tendency is, esp in the Porsche club, is that most of us want to get promoted and go faster. That is the wrong philosophy for what we do. If that is how someone honestly feels, that they want to be the fastest, then talk to me or one of the other racers and we can talk about racing programs to go fast -- like Glen is getting into.
DE is about safe fun (go ahead Bob, pass me I'm slow I don't care)
Racing is about aggression! (grr, my apex Todd!!!! I might even hit you!)
No doubt racing is what makes the fastest guys faster.