2013 Planes & Porsches?

[Wally]

Ccns23 wrote:

Looks like things haven't changed a bit at the ol' RTR. The "old" guard is upset with the new. Who would've guessed?
Only myself and one other poster to this thread are "old guard". All the rest, the majority, are "new guard" (5 years or less as members)

Seriously. You're a bunch of grown men. Jon volunteered, realized he didn't have the time necessary to run an effective DE,
I didn't know that Jon was responsible to run the DE program. I thought I was and am unaware that there were problems with the program.

and AX fell a bit into disarray. It was mentioned earlier that NO ONE stepped up to take his place this year.
AX is a position like some others that need not be filled. In past years the position has been left vacant with same net effect as now.

So if you're gonna step up, great. But keep the attacks and childish antics to yourselves. If he made promises he couldn't keep, well, how many of us have done the same in our lifetimes?
As a child I made childish promises I could not or did not keep, then I grew up and became a man. My only commodity is my word, my only value is my honor.

Please, just knock off the nonsense.
Take your own advice.

I would love to see PnP come back? Absolutely. It was truly the premier event for the club. No other event came close the the fun, passion, and companionship that our club is all about. Steve did an absolutely amazing job in getting it established as well as the execution. If he wants to run it again, so be it. But for now? Please stop talking behind Jon's back. If you have something to say, say it to him, not in an e-mail to someone else.
Jon receive all the emails on this subject, nothing was "back channeled" that I know of. Also this Forum is open to all, for all to see.

That's just as "dishonorable" as him not keeping a promise.
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I like Jon, he's a very charismatic person with good people skills, my only complaint about him is that he does not reach out to others for help or advice when he isn't sure how to go about his responsibilities. (to RTR)