04-04-2007, 05:07 PM
Great deal of information and most appreciated. From reading all of the posts and attending RTR DE events for the past year and half my perspective has been:
1) Drivers with prior experience and decently powered cars should get out of the green group faster than they do when they demonstrate from their first, second, or maybe as long as third DE events that they have track awareness and are safe drivers,
2) Its extremely frustrating to do four, five, six events in Green when you're overtaking other less experienced Green Group drivers at 50-60 mph on straights because your carrying momentum through corners and they're not and they have absolutely no track awareness or attention paid to their mirrors,
3) Once you get out of Green I don't see much of an issue about speed of advancement as all of the things that drove me crazy and took the fun out of DE in Green (no pass signals for two or three consecutive laps) do not seem to be an issue in the RTR Blue Group. While there are some slower drivers and slower cars they all have their heads up and are aware that you're either coming or are there already and pass signals are rarely slow to come.
4) A lot of the posts about advancement etc. seem to come from people with limited driving experience and fast cars. I've been on the track with a number of them and haven't had them in my mirrors yet, and they're in higher HP cars then mine, so they've got some 'learnin to do on carrying momentum it would seem,
5) We all need to bear in mind that this is a "club" and we're all out to have a fun, yet safe time. Most of us (me included) have "A" type personalities, so its difficult for us to go out and just enjoy the activity without being competitive about it. We all need to take a deep breath before your session starts and remember what you're trying to accomplish - take your car out on the track at high speed, learn and practice increasing your skills and driving ability and have a good time doing it while at the same time acknowledging there are going to be different people, with different learning curves, and different car capabilities on the track with you at the same time.
Burt Reynolds would propose a "Man Rule" - he who complains about not moving up in run group assignment automatically stays in the current group for another two or three events. You need to be patient, practice your craft, and say "get the f... out of my way, PLEASE" under your breath while displaying the epitome of patience, tact, and safe separation to your instructor and fellow drivers.
BTW - when do I get promoted to White? I know - read the criteria and work on it. Thanks for the great information on promotion criteria. Its most appreciated.
Pat
1) Drivers with prior experience and decently powered cars should get out of the green group faster than they do when they demonstrate from their first, second, or maybe as long as third DE events that they have track awareness and are safe drivers,
2) Its extremely frustrating to do four, five, six events in Green when you're overtaking other less experienced Green Group drivers at 50-60 mph on straights because your carrying momentum through corners and they're not and they have absolutely no track awareness or attention paid to their mirrors,
3) Once you get out of Green I don't see much of an issue about speed of advancement as all of the things that drove me crazy and took the fun out of DE in Green (no pass signals for two or three consecutive laps) do not seem to be an issue in the RTR Blue Group. While there are some slower drivers and slower cars they all have their heads up and are aware that you're either coming or are there already and pass signals are rarely slow to come.
4) A lot of the posts about advancement etc. seem to come from people with limited driving experience and fast cars. I've been on the track with a number of them and haven't had them in my mirrors yet, and they're in higher HP cars then mine, so they've got some 'learnin to do on carrying momentum it would seem,
5) We all need to bear in mind that this is a "club" and we're all out to have a fun, yet safe time. Most of us (me included) have "A" type personalities, so its difficult for us to go out and just enjoy the activity without being competitive about it. We all need to take a deep breath before your session starts and remember what you're trying to accomplish - take your car out on the track at high speed, learn and practice increasing your skills and driving ability and have a good time doing it while at the same time acknowledging there are going to be different people, with different learning curves, and different car capabilities on the track with you at the same time.
Burt Reynolds would propose a "Man Rule" - he who complains about not moving up in run group assignment automatically stays in the current group for another two or three events. You need to be patient, practice your craft, and say "get the f... out of my way, PLEASE" under your breath while displaying the epitome of patience, tact, and safe separation to your instructor and fellow drivers.
BTW - when do I get promoted to White? I know - read the criteria and work on it. Thanks for the great information on promotion criteria. Its most appreciated.
Pat
PCA National Instructor #200905073
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03 996 C4S
05 Chev Suburban
07 VW Passat