09-02-2009, 01:15 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-02-2009, 01:36 AM by ninjabones.)
Darren wrote:
I definitely don't want to debate about cheap racing with the master... but, I don't necessarily agree that running a spec boxster costs the same as my 993 or a 996. The 993 was a relatively rare car compared to the production of boxsters. Consequently, there is a wealth of used and aftermarket parts available. Also, junkyards are filled with available body panels and parts. I had to really hunt to find parts for my 993 after my wreck (many 993 parts are NLA). Used boxster engines are dirt cheap compared to air cooled 993s and as we learned from Ian recently, 996 engines are no longer cheap). Consumables will also be cheaper due to the car's weight including rotors and brake pads. And most importantly, the spec boxster runs a spec tire (R888), which would significantly reduce costs. I estimate that I spent about $1,200 on consumables this weekend in the club race in my 993 (1/2 set of pagid blacks, 2/3 set of hoosiers, 1/3 set of rotors, 45 gallons of fuel).
I wouldn't also compare them to spec miata in terms of speed... just to compare apples to apples (track conditions, etc), in the sprint races on sunday morning from this weekend, here were some times and remember that spbox is on R888s and the rest of the cars were on hoosiers)
SPbox (bell) 1:36.6
Kenny Nielson (GT3 J class) 1:32.065
John Giannone (3.6 996 I class) 1:32.6
Pete Tremper (964) 1:35.7
Pete Dubusman (993 H class) 1:33.1
Glen Crawford (993 G class) 1:34.69
Dave Schenk (3.4 996 H class) 1:33.9
Fred Constantineau (D class 1980 SC) 1:35.639
Frank Celenza (944 SP3) 1.37.12
Quote:Are you telling me about cheap racing? I do race an Acura you know.
Yeah a Miata is $20k but how much does a new tub cost? $1000? The cost to race a Spec Boxster is going to be roughly the same as racing a 911, so may as well just race a 911. Forget about close racing because there aren't enough of the cars in the area.
Never build or buy a car to race in a class with only 3 cars, it's just stupid.
I definitely don't want to debate about cheap racing with the master... but, I don't necessarily agree that running a spec boxster costs the same as my 993 or a 996. The 993 was a relatively rare car compared to the production of boxsters. Consequently, there is a wealth of used and aftermarket parts available. Also, junkyards are filled with available body panels and parts. I had to really hunt to find parts for my 993 after my wreck (many 993 parts are NLA). Used boxster engines are dirt cheap compared to air cooled 993s and as we learned from Ian recently, 996 engines are no longer cheap). Consumables will also be cheaper due to the car's weight including rotors and brake pads. And most importantly, the spec boxster runs a spec tire (R888), which would significantly reduce costs. I estimate that I spent about $1,200 on consumables this weekend in the club race in my 993 (1/2 set of pagid blacks, 2/3 set of hoosiers, 1/3 set of rotors, 45 gallons of fuel).
I wouldn't also compare them to spec miata in terms of speed... just to compare apples to apples (track conditions, etc), in the sprint races on sunday morning from this weekend, here were some times and remember that spbox is on R888s and the rest of the cars were on hoosiers)
SPbox (bell) 1:36.6
Kenny Nielson (GT3 J class) 1:32.065
John Giannone (3.6 996 I class) 1:32.6
Pete Tremper (964) 1:35.7
Pete Dubusman (993 H class) 1:33.1
Glen Crawford (993 G class) 1:34.69
Dave Schenk (3.4 996 H class) 1:33.9
Fred Constantineau (D class 1980 SC) 1:35.639
Frank Celenza (944 SP3) 1.37.12
Glen
2014 Cayman S
1999 Spec Boxster #270
2006 Cayenne S - grocery-getter and tow rig
2014 Cayman S
1999 Spec Boxster #270
2006 Cayenne S - grocery-getter and tow rig